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JJ Treadway's avatar

Sad to say I've been the person with the self-reinforcing network of largely-false beliefs (with regard to https://aella.substack.com/p/the-other-porn-land/comment/240855567). And yeah, the thing that finally broke me out of it was *not* in fact a direct counter-argument against the belief that [person-I-barely-knew] was my One True Love or against a major swath of the associated memeplex I had built up around it. The thing that broke me out of it was reading hpmor and the sequences, which taught me *general* good practices of epistemology while (mostly) refraining from arguing against the specific false beliefs I had, such that I could eventually apply those practices to my false beliefs and realize their falsity on my own. Sadly, I suspect even Eliezer would have failed if he'd tried to change past-me's mind by directly challenging the false beliefs I had.

David Manheim's avatar

The reasons for beliefs aren't always about the beliefs being true. (Which means showing that they are false won't cause the person believing them to change their position.)

...you knew this already, right?

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