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Michael Cohn's avatar

I get the distinction between "that feeling isn't respect" vs "you'd better start acting the part" but I think they're both possible; it comes down to whether the person sees their behavior as aligning with their feelings or not. If I say I feel respect for you, and you ask me, "is this how you think you should treat a person you respect?" then my response could be:

1) "No, it's not, I keep treating you that way because I'm angry / tired / distracted / have my priorities wrong." then I think it is possible that I feel respect for you but am not working hard enough to live consistently with my values. Even if I fail enough that you feel consistently disrespected, I still wouldn't see that as compelling me to say I don't feel respect for you. I'd just see it as indicating that other people are ultimately affected by our behavior rather than our internal feelings, and I shouldn't be surprised or indignant when your actions are based on my not showing you respect.

2) "No, it's not, I keep treating you that way because of [other aspect of our interactions or something] then that's a practical problem to solve and again, if I fail beyond an acceptable level then the explanation is about my behavior, not my feelings.

3) "Yes, this is an appropriate way to treat someone I respect." This is the case where I think "what you feel isn't what I would call respect" is appropriate, and perhaps even "your emotion doesn't fit any existing definition of 'respect'."

In the common cases of "respect" and "love" maybe these options collapse together partway because a reasonably shared definition of those terms _implies_ behaviors like "get over your shit and act in keeping with your feelings" or "adjust how you express this feeling in a way that takes the recipient's experience of it into account."

It would probably be for the best if we could disentangle emotional experiences from evaluations of people from behavior towards people -- it doesn't seem reasonable to say we should have completely different words for them but we can set a clearer expectation that the verb has more practical consequences than the noun (feeling X vs showing X), and go more in your proposed direction of defining the feeling based on the actions it encourages.

David Manheim's avatar

I think I want this to be about something more like 'cashing out terms into shared expectations.' You said "whether that name matches their actual behavior, **or would be generally misleading to others**," and I think the second one definitely works better than "mislabeling" for discussing calibration, but I'd argue it's also a lot of what's happening for "respect" or "being kind" in your examples as well; people use emotion words in ways that don't make others expect the behavior from them that they end up displaying.

(I admit that this doesn't work as well in terms of getting people to agree that their feelings are internally mislabeled, but I'm not as sure about why language describing feelings would matter other than communication.)

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