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Gretta Duleba's avatar

Regarding the "Every Good Therapist Already Implicitly Understands Everything I Have To Say, Here," part of the subtitle -- yeah? I think that is probably true. It was definitely woven into / corraborated by my training and clinical experience.

We were also taught, and I believe, that therapy is one of the best ways for clients from various Dark Worlds to form long, deep, stable relationships with their therapist -- who is, ideally, an inhabitant of the corresponding Light World.

When this happens and it works, it can be a powerful way for the client to get a lot of training data about what it is like to interact with someone who doesn't defect, who in fact cooperates even when the client defects, and maybe the client eventually becomes brave enough to venture cooperating in the therapist-client relationship and have that go well.

And then if the therapist is very good they can help the client find safe places to cooperate in their life outside of therapy.

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Gavin Pugh's avatar

Firstly, thank you for writing this, I very much enjoyed it.

This put into words a feeling I've been struggling with for a while. A few years ago, my wife and I hosted thanksgiving for my family. My sister and her family were not just attending but also staying at our place, and she offered to give us some money to help pay for dinner. This upset me, not in a blow-up-at-her kind of way, just in a decline, complain to my wife, and be grumpy for an hour sort of way. Even at the time I knew she meant no ill will by it, but my gut reaction was something like "what, does she think we can't afford to provide food and lodging?" But I think the actual hurt was from what you described: I thought our relationship was such that we were all so far into the green that a large meal and a few nights of lodging barely merit logging in the ledger. By offering money, she signaled (unintentionally, likely just trying to be nice) that our relationship was more of the "discrepancies must be immediately rectified" type. Contrast that with if she had instead, say, offered to bring a dessert. Despite being financially identical, it feels more like we're all contributing to the green, a no one's keeping score dynamic.

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To be fair, you have to have a very high emotional intelligence to understand Rick and Morty. The inner turmoil is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of [the rest of the copypasta is left as an exercise for the reader]

I don't know who Zack Davis is, but I think I get the gist from how you describe his interactions.

I've long been confused by dares, and only more confused by double-dog dares. I didn't understand why people would give them any weight. Why does "I dare you!" motivate anyone to do anything? I had assumed it was a display of strength, that "I dare you" was a challenge to your courage (malicious), and to decline would see you branded as a coward. I hadn't considered a dare as permission to act outside of your norm (benign). Let's short circuit the system. TRUTH: "what do you want us to dare you to do?"

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